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God & Jesus Promotion / Compilation of posts on 060607 to 060707 ... In reply to a poster who wrote: > http://www.villagevoice.com/nyclife/0722,musto,76856,15.html> > The Unreality Show > > Idol's Carrie channels Christ in Atlantic City. > In do-me heels. > > Get real (like David Hyde Pierce). > > by Michael Musto > > June 5th, 2007 6:34 PM > > Jesus took the wheel and got me on an Atlantic City > junket to see petite powerhouse CARRIE UNDER- > WOOD put the Christ back in country. Jesus Take the Wheel lyrics http://tinyurl.com/32svwz The lyrics, reflecting a typical religious view (in christianity) that relying on a magic being named Jesus (or God) makes life better. That view, when most severely put to the test, after horrors beset the faithful or those the faithful are praying for, the only remnant of belief the faithful have left is the promise of a pleasant immor- tality. Many doubters and disbelievers find a mere promise to be insufficient, and unjustified, especially when accompan- ied by threats against humans who sup- posedly fail to jump through the right hoops. - - - In reply to a poster who wrote: > whatever you want to call it pro... that christ, muhammed, > joseph smith, god, charles taze, buddah, abraham people > are popular... you're fighting a losing battle... Simply expressing points of view that deviate from the God trap that up to 90% or so of the country tends to say, most often, that they've not yet escaped from. In many parts of Europe, many have escaped, and I suspect that expressing points of view doubting and disbelieving in the close to 2,000 years of religious domination of most of Europe played no small role in the freedom from reli- gion that much of Europe now enjoys. > people will never fully move away from religion.... just live > your life and enjoy it... See Europe for a clue. > but you preach more than any christian I have ever known... Look up Jesus or God or Allah or Lord or Heaven or Hell or Miracle or Pray on newsgroup forums or via web search engines, or in the Bible or Quran for that matter, and I think you'll find that the amount of preaching promoting religion is massive, far surpassing the number of views expressing doubt or disbelief in such things. At least some are willing to speak up with doubts and disbelief, and perhaps more will follow, some day, as openness in dis- cussing the reasons for doubt and disbe- lief lead people to question that God trap. Go to church or synagogue or mosque or temple or other religious worship place, and I think you'll find the amount of preach- ing acting as if supernaturalism is reality far surpasses doubts and disbelief in such things, though you might find plenty of doubt and disbelief in supernaturalism that's apart from the particular type being promoted. Listen to politicians. Hear any doubt or disbelief there? Certainly, not much, as politicians in the present day are taught to pay homage to religion from birth, at risk of not holding political office. Even after the disaster of 9-11, few poli- ticians were willing to raise their voice against religion in general, and the reli- gion of islam in particular, being culpable in no small part for that act of mass murder. That's the way it's been, but that need not be the way it remains, and only by speak- ing up regarding attractive alternatives to and ways of escaping the God trap can people ever be truly free of all the ancient absurdity, contradictions, and anti-human- ism that religion is responsible for. - - - In reply to a poster who wrote: > eh... God or no God... I am just saying... > > Honestly.. I dont care one way or another.. If I die and > nothing is there.. it sure was a kick ass ride... If not then > even better... You have the freedom to believe or disbelieve in such things, in this country and many others (not all), at this time. In the past, much of the world has been shrouded in a believe or else motif. Today, saying something as simple as "Religion is myth" can get you imprisoned or killed in some parts of the world. Of course, what with islamic mass murderers having declared war on the west (and war on whomever they dislike in places like Iraq and Afghan- istan and Pakistan), there is little chance at escape -if- you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, no matter what you believe. Would that the entire world be free, free from religious oppression, free from tyranny, free from need, truly free, a heaven on earth and beyond if you will. Only by endeavoring to make it so may it one day become real, in this one and only *certain* life we share. As for the promised afterlife that religions seduce & threaten us with, it would escape the world of fantasy -if- they came up with any evidence that such claims were true. They haven't. Big buildings won't do it. Seductions won't do it. Threats won't do it. Mass murder won't do it. Calling words 'holy' won't do it. Bowing to supposed superbeings won't do it. Talking as if superbeings exist and care won't do it. Using a symbol of torture / death as a symbol of religious faith, and wear- ing that around one's neck won't do it. Songs won't do it. Chants won't do it. Miracle claims won't do it. Fear won't do it. In essence, for the truly free, religious faith is an empty enterprise, and only evidence can convince. Science, free science, is humankind's only true hope, and if we fail in that, we're destined to a short-term exist- ence insofar as this life represents our one and only *sure* shot at it. If we succeed, if we master our nature, if we truly understand all that is, all that ever was, all that ever will be, and if in understanding it, we master it wisely, therein resides our only *certain* chance to escape from the limitations & risks of a natural fate. Until then, discussing the risks and the shortcomings of religious faith / fantasy and the true hope that pro-human sci- ence can provide may enable some / many to open the door to reason, to see thru the mirage of religious seduc- tions, and to escape the dark world of religious threats. - - - |
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